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Post  BackyardBirdGardner 3/7/2011, 11:16 am

I also go by seasonal ques. When crocuses sprout it is time to plant Fava Beans. Most cold weather food can be planted when Maples have their first tiny leaves. But tradition still rules my season. St Patrick’s day is for potatoes (and peas if I missed the Presidents Birthday). April Fool's for greens and the broccoli family (direct seed). May Day for starting tropical’s, like peppers and eggplant, inside so they are ready to plant out in mid June. Memorial Weekend for nearly everything else. If I go strictly by tradition, then corn has to wait until a man can sit in only a loin-cloth on the bare dirt for 20 minutes without pain. (One of my great grandmothers was a Blackfoot Indian, that one came from her). My guys are Scottish....maybe they will go out in a kilt (I've actually seen what they wear under them)

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Post  Megan 3/7/2011, 9:11 pm

BackyardBirdGardner wrote:
I also go by seasonal ques. When crocuses sprout it is time to plant Fava Beans. Most cold weather food can be planted when Maples have their first tiny leaves. But tradition still rules my season. St Patrick’s day is for potatoes (and peas if I missed the Presidents Birthday). April Fool's for greens and the broccoli family (direct seed). May Day for starting tropical’s, like peppers and eggplant, inside so they are ready to plant out in mid June. Memorial Weekend for nearly everything else. If I go strictly by tradition, then corn has to wait until a man can sit in only a loin-cloth on the bare dirt for 20 minutes without pain. (One of my great grandmothers was a Blackfoot Indian, that one came from her). My guys are Scottish....maybe they will go out in a kilt (I've actually seen what they wear under them)

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Amen. May have to frame this one. Debs, if I do, will you autograph it for me?? Very Happy
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Post  middlemamma 3/8/2011, 4:29 am

I enjoy greatly reading the members here on the forum who have tradition in their blood passed down from great grandparents, grandparents and parents.

Maybe someday I will be the grandma passing all these things I learn over the years to my grandchildren.

It is amazing (and sad) to me what has been lost in just a few generations. I hope I can be a part of getting some of it back.

It's hard to even picture myself a grandmother...but 2 years ago I wasn't a gardener either. Very Happy

Keep on typing Lavender..I love it!
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Post  FarmerValerie 3/8/2011, 8:13 am

Jeannie, it will amaze you when the time comes and all that information rattling around up there in your brain comes back to you and you are passing it along to future generations. I'll just be talking to my 5yo grandson and all those memories and generational information just start pouring out. I did not find out until I started teaching cake decorating 5 years ago that my mom's parents used to do cakes, she would bake them and he would decorate them. I now have some of their old cake pans, next to my other grandmothers kitchen aid mixer.
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Post  Lavender Debs 3/8/2011, 12:33 pm

I was just looking over the original Toy Box thread and saw that by this time last year my Tomatoes had sprouted. Because I have nothing better to do than fuss about the little things this time of year, I started worrying about not seeing any tomato sprouts. Is it the newspaper pots? Is it the new starting mix, bad seed?

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Hello 2011 Tomato babies! I'm so happy to finally get to see you ...but wait, something’s wrong. It isn’t with the little tomatoes. It isn’t even with the newspaper pots or the soil mix.

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I just about put my arm out of joint patting myself on the back. It seemed so smart to cut up a milk carton for labels, using a sharpie to write down the important information. Now what? By process of elimination I have been able to figure out most of them. I'm having a little bit of trouble telling the difference between SILtz and SILver Fur but the seed packet assures me that Silver Fur will have unique true leaves (rather like carrot leaves) so that one should sort itself out.

Actually, it was sort of a fun puzzle. Now, if only I could buy a vowel.

Deborah....getting out the plastic tags and wax pencil.

The Toy Box (the return) - Page 2 Minni_10 Plastic rain bonnets on box 2 and 3 for the “rain with occasional showers” that has settled in for a long visit. I don't need to protect against frost so much as drowning. Strong south wind (up to 25 mph) 47/40, more of the same for the next week.
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Post  elliephant 3/8/2011, 8:55 pm

Oopsie! I was oh-so-careful in labeling my tomato seedlings and writing down their location on a "map" as I was transplanting them...until I lost the map. Think it may have gone through the wash. The fact that some have potato leaves helped jog my memory on some of them and I think I've got most of them figured out...we'll see when they start producing! (Getting my first flowering branches here)
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Post  miinva 3/9/2011, 11:16 pm

I giggled aloud at, "buy a vowel" Very Happy I love this thread!
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Do you suppose it looks rather like a carrot? Oddly enough carrots did grow in this square last year. I thought I got them all when I stirred up the soil before planting the Favas but maybe not. It was good for a momentary thrill this AM.
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The difference between Kitchenwindow Artichokes and Wintersown Artichokes? All of the wintersown seed has sprouted and is a healthy deep green even though they are behind the kitchen window sown Artichokes on the Left. What the kitchenwindow plant misses in good color it makes up for in new leaves. I did not think the kitchenwindow Artichoke was very leggy until I saw the wintersown.

I am a native of the PNW. The sound of rain on an umbrella is a comforting sound to me. Snow that will not go away bothers me far more than rain. We are still into the spring rains. I've had a look in the garden for today. the broccoli is uncovered so that it will get some moisture. I need to give a splash of water to the plants in the cold-frame. Once those pleasant chores are done Ray, Rudy and I will grab umbrellas and head to Flowerworld to find a Northstar Pie Cherry and have a look-see at the berries they have in this year. My Chris works graveyard at the hospital. Sometimes he goes shopping before he comes home. Today he came home with a couple of huge pots for trees and whatever. Now I have the happy task of filling them.

Deborah....in a mood to go shopping. It will get me singing (the scarecrow's song) in the rain.

The Toy Box (the return) - Page 2 Mini_m10 Two inches of rain since yesterday and I'm watering my covered plants. At least I'm not worried about making more drainage. A warm south wind is driving the rain from the sea. 52/40 are the guesses for high and low. The morning started at 43.
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Post  windrider1967 3/13/2011, 10:42 am

I love following this thread. Complete opposite end of the world from me, and interesting to see what is up
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Post  miinva 3/14/2011, 1:00 am

I can't wait to see pictures of your Purple Peacock. That's one I hope to try in the future. For this year I'm excited to see what comes of my purple sprouting broccoli.
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Post  dizzygardener 3/14/2011, 9:53 am

Very Happy

Ok, you've really inspired me to get out there and get to planting! I've got some seedlings that are quite sad and leggy under the grow lights. If we could just get some sun around here I'd put them in a sunny window, but we are due to get a little rain today. Sad

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Post  Lavender Debs 3/14/2011, 1:01 pm

Squish. That is the sound I make as I walk about the garden. Squish. The wind blows assertively while optimistic birds sing on the hillside just over the fence. I've come to the garden because I am unwilling to turn off the TV news of the Japanese tragedy and my heart needs a moment to pray. I must say how grateful I am that my garden squishes. It has not been buried under a thirty foot wall of salty sludge that will render it useless for years. It just squishes. (last I heard, Hanford was still acting tame). I have buckets of rainwater, electricity to run the washer and dryer, the gas burns freely only in the fireplace and I am not wondering about the status of loved ones. Life is still Good.

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Golden Sweet Snow Peas have come bravely to the surface. I hope to get out between systems this afternoon and mix up some of the ingredients for MM, left from last year, for the new box, (#5). While I am out during the "sunbreak" I plan to move the cold frame over to give the peas a chance to dry out just a little before the next "rain event".

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Squish. My home is at the top of a bluff. It surprises me how wet the garden is. I am careful where I step. My garden shoes are slip on mules. I am wishing I had an old fashioned pair of barn boots. It is difficult to keep up with the mud that the puppies bring in. There are puppy prints from the back door to the fireplace.

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Splish-splash, my lavender is taking a bath. Doesn't look any happier then my JRT "Bomber" when he has to take a bath. I'm thinking I better get out with the clippers and a jar of root-tone to get a few cuttings started if this poor garden is to be saved. For some time now I have known that I need to move the Lavender garden to a sunnier spot. I just had more urgent work to do and put it off. Suddenly the Lavender garden has become urgent. Such is life for us who love all that the dirt brings.

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Rainy, breezy day. 52/43. As of 9:45 it has not got up to 45 yet (the temp that I feel safe bundling up the tomato babies and running them out to the deck for some light...as if there is more light outside than in the kitchen window today). The old wind mill has been spinning all morning in the unsettled air. I go out regularly to dump the water off of the plastic that covers boxes 2 and 3 so the weight of it does not squish the babies it should be protecting. The rain gage showed 2 and 1/4 more inches of water has fallen since late Saturday when I last emptied it.

Just as I was about to hit send, light came rushing into the living room through the big window. Maybe hope will still float.



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Post  walshevak 3/14/2011, 1:34 pm

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Squish. That is the sound I make as I walk about the garden. Squish. The wind blows assertively while optimistic birds sing on the hillside just over the fence. I've come to the garden because I am unwilling to turn off the TV news of the Japanese tragedy and my heart needs a moment to pray. I must say how grateful I am that my garden squishes. It has not been buried under a thirty foot wall of salty sludge that will render it useless for years. It just squishes. (last I heard, Hanford was still acting tame). I have buckets of rainwater, electricity to run the washer and dryer, the gas burns freely only in the fireplace and I am not wondering about the status of loved ones. Life is still Good.

I am just the opposite. I had to turn the TV off. I lived in Japan for 3 years and my son lived there for 7. All our friends have left and we were in the southwest (Yokusuka Navy Base) and not in the path, but I loved the country and I just can't stand to actually see the devastation. I have to say agree, life is still good.

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Post  Lavender Debs 3/14/2011, 10:05 pm

The Sun came out.

Let me say it again, The sun came out. Not for long. I noticed that it was bright out, snatched the kitchen garbage and tip-toed out the door, not wanting to scare the rare sun back into hiding. I think the bag of garbage must have frightened it just a little. My lens isn't dirty; those are big drops in the sunshine.
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I had already filled the wheelbarrow with vermiculite to add to the compost and peat in the blue pool. (Bomber got a pretty new one). It takes about 4 to 5 pools full of MM to fill a 4x4. I just pour everything in, take my flat shovel and circle the pool two times, turning as I go, almost like folding really heavy egg whites into a serious bowl of waffle batter.
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One pool full of MM, gobs more to go. I don't really need this box until early April. Her twin should be ready by early May. I'll still need MM to fill all those tomato tubs. I'm out of peat for now. I know I will need more vermiculate and probably will have to buy more compost fixens. There isn't enough in my little bins for these monster boxes. This is so Kewl! I thought I had one more bag of premixed compost from last year but it turned out to be a bag of bark. Yea! Now I can cover the area between box 3 and 5.

@windrider; thank you, that is really kind.
@miinva; you have purple sprouting broccoli? Is it ready? In the PNW we plan to eat it in spring. It has been a long time since I've thought about PSB, I should get it on my fall list.
@dizzy; WooT! I love that you are ready! I've never met "mother nature" but I have heard of her. Sometimes I pitch a fit right to my Creators face, he is so patient, like the loving husband of a spoiled bride. He always looks for my best even when He knows I am not looking to his best, but just wanting to get my own way. Even so, I hope you get what you want in big buckets shoveled out with joy.

And Kay....my very soul aches for you! Most of the Japanese I hang with come from Hawaii. Those I know who spend lots of time in Japan are round-eyes who work for Boeing. Your heart is showing and it is beautiful. You have a perspective I will never know. Thank you so much for sharing that with me.

Deborah.....Did Steve Pool just say something about small hail?
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Post  miinva 3/14/2011, 10:40 pm

Yes, and I'd be happy to send you some seed if you'd like some, just PM your address Smile I haven't planted it yet. I read that it's not harvested like 'normal' broccoli, but I'm not sure when to plant it.
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Post  Lavender Debs 3/16/2011, 5:23 pm

Chris came in with another box yesterday. I just assumed that it was something for the tear-drop trailer that he is building. Instead, it was a little plastic green house (or maybe a green closet). He put it together before he went to work this afternoon.

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Slick! I moved all the microgreens into it (the pea greens are SO good!) and all the little baby starts of tomatoes, the artichokes, wintersowns and broccolis. They all look so cozy.

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Since the coldframe was looking so empty I went ahead and planted Scallions, a square of mixed Beets (Bulls Blood, Golden and Chioggia), Tsi-Tsi (supposed to be a flat bok choi), French Breakfast Radishes, and Swiss Chard. Tomorrow I'll sink a few slices of Potatoes outside.

Deborah.....something is already nibbled off my Fava sprout, but the Peas that have come up look good.

The Toy Box (the return) - Page 2 2q110 Even though it was overcast and cooler than it has been, it didn't rain. Day isn't over yet, those who claim to know are still promising that a Thunderstorm is going to roll through 52/36
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Post  boffer 3/16/2011, 5:32 pm

'Slick' she says!

And yesterday's favorite son got what cooked for dinner?! Wink
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Post  Lavender Debs 3/16/2011, 5:41 pm

boffer wrote:...And yesterday's favorite son got what cooked for dinner?!

Nothing special....but I have been baking bread to warm the long wet days. And there was that rum raison-applesauce cake.
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Post  FarmerValerie 3/16/2011, 6:56 pm

LavDeb, bring your fresh bread on over and we'll spread some just got,real honey all over it, or we can just use the tortillas I am about to make in a bit. Hubby is beside himself with joy over all the honey he got extracting a hive the other day, that hive is in "MY" garden area and my kitchen is sticky....
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Post  Lavender Debs 3/16/2011, 7:28 pm

FarmerValerie wrote:LavDeb, bring your fresh bread on over and we'll spread some just got,real honey all over it, or we can just use the tortillas I am about to make in a bit. Hubby is beside himself with joy over all the honey he got extracting a hive the other day, that hive is in "MY" garden area and my kitchen is sticky....

Oh Girl! I LOVE fresh from the comb honey!!!

So, you are making tortillas? Awesome. I made my first flour tortillas just the other day, the guys went bug-nuts for them ummm-um! One of the guys ordered a tortilla press for my day, it should be here any time now. I'm so physced! (is that spelled right?)

Debs....REALLY in the mood for cinnamon-honey fresh tortillas.....or maybe just some fish taco's with the pea-shoots and honey sauce.
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Post  FarmerValerie 3/16/2011, 8:01 pm

Yep, got chicken in the Forman Rotissere oven, and gonna whip up some fresh tortilla mix, let it sit, then roll them out (flour) and heat 'em up.
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Post  miinva 3/16/2011, 10:10 pm

I love pea shoots! I hadn't thought to eat them until a local deli did a sandwich with them and they were so tasty Smile
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This really is what I wanted. Lots and lots and lots of dirt and a little bit of shhh.. um what I mean is poo.

I also got a "bea-boxer" You know, those things that make cubes that Quilt Bea is famous for and swears that she doesn't get kick-backs on (she should). That was a surprise. The other surprise was the big recipe for making the cubes. (I don't have any "garden dirt" or wouldn't have got so excited about SFGs) I think I have about everything else I need.

These two 4 x 8's double my garden space....and I'm wanting more

Deborah....fixen to go mix up some composts just to work off all that cake.

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Post  dixie 3/18/2011, 7:23 pm

Only a fellow SFG'r would understand your excitement. Congrats & Happy Birthday.
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Post  Lavender Debs 3/19/2011, 8:22 pm

Thanks Dixie!
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Boxes 5 and 6 are pretty much done. Box 5 is ready. But I stole mix from box 6 for my potatoes. Ray helped make the MM. It goes so much faster when two people work on the mix using a big tarp. It still took all day.

I had planned on planting all those onions in the center of box 5 but I was just bushed by the time I (we) filled the boxes and planted potatoes. The yard is still too wet to mow and the weed whacker is broken but it IS starting to look like someone cares. I still need to spread bark between the boxes and thread the string. If the weather holds, that will get done tomorrow.

Deborah...glad I don't have to make dinner tonight (must go down's with a glass of wine)

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