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Post  jimmy cee on 4/19/2018, 11:34 pm

I have been allotted an area out back that I'll be creating some type of a new garden area.
In the beginning there were many huge trees covering that space. Many were removed because of the ash borer beetle.
Now there will be ample space for me to play in...and as you all know I love playing in my garden, especially when I can build, test, sample, drink coffee in the morning and beer in the afternoon.
This will be a work in progress, I haven't even started yet as some grading needs to be done.
I will be adding photo's and info in each stage. Not quite sure yet exactly what I am going to come up with, except in the beginning I am planning to use galvanized water troughs for beds. Everything I make will be elevated as I have had enough experience with tree roots taking over my beds. I'll have no more of that.
Please bear with me as time moves on.
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Below shows my area on the other side of the ditch. To much shade in this photo, however that will soon be corrected......

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Post  sanderson on 4/20/2018, 1:49 am

bounce I just love gardening journeys!

Why do you have to grade to area? At least not for watering troughs. Just level their spots and water will drain towards the ditch. Yes? No? For any table tops, just make 2 long legs and 2 short legs?? I just shim where tweaking is needed.

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Post  trolleydriver on 4/20/2018, 8:02 am

Jimmy, I'm looking forward to seeing how things develop. You must be excited.  Very Happy

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Post  SQWIB on 4/20/2018, 10:19 am

@trolleydriver wrote:Jimmy, I'm looking forward to seeing how things develop. You must be excited.  Very Happy
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Post  jimmy cee on 4/20/2018, 10:29 pm

@sanderson wrote:bounce I just love gardening journeys!  

Why do you have to grade to area?  At least not for watering troughs.  Just level their spots and water will drain towards the ditch.  Yes? No?  For any table tops, just make 2 long legs and 2 short legs??  I just shim where tweaking is needed.
tree roots, and more tree roots. my son wants to do this. I'll just wait till it is all done. in the meantime I keep upgrading my thoughts. many bumps and holes not seen in these photos.
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Post  jimmy cee on 4/20/2018, 10:36 pm

Now for an amazing method of tree removal that I never realized existed. I moved back to civilization where time means everything. So many people live in this area, I suppose thats why the shopping is terrific here in the eastern part of PA.
In 2 hours all trees that needed to come down were removed, chipped and machinery gone...2 hours....















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Post  yolos on 4/20/2018, 10:58 pm

Did you keep the wood chips or were there just too many of them or diseased trees maybe.
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Post  jimmy cee on 4/20/2018, 11:17 pm

@yolos wrote:Did you keep the wood chips or were there just too many of them or diseased trees maybe.
No they went with the trucks, besides I wasn't even living here when it was done last fall. I do need to be careful as to what I do...it isn't my home. heck my wife always told me, if she let me go I'd have beds instead of grass. And she was right.
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Post  sanderson on 4/21/2018, 3:08 am

I love watching professional tree trimmers.  Not Tom who happens to trim, but experienced crews with all their equipment.  It's like a ballet with everyone working safely.

You need to post an after photo.

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Post  jimmy cee on 4/21/2018, 11:32 pm

@sanderson wrote:I love watching professional tree trimmers.  Not Tom who happens to trim, but experienced crews with all their equipment.  It's like a ballet with everyone working safely.

You need to post an after photo.
After photo is coming...this crew worked this entire neighborhood all day, took them 2 hours to prepare, cut, chip, clean up and leave. They did it with such grace...
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Post  Kelejan on 4/26/2018, 2:16 am

I also found it fascinating to watch my eight large birch trees being felled and placed in exactly the right position so as not to fall on my neighbour's house, my house, or into the roadway. In addition the trunks had to be place in exactly the right position so that they fell across the edge of my garden so as to build up the bank and extend my garden so that I could get more sunshine.  There was always that moment of no return when the tree started to fall. I kept all the wood chips.
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Post  jimmy cee on 4/26/2018, 11:19 pm

@Kelejan wrote:I also found it fascinating to watch my eight large birch trees being felled and placed in exactly the right position so as not to fall on my neighbour's house, my house, or into the roadway. In addition the trunks had to be place in exactly the right position so that they fell across the edge of my garden so as to build up the bank and extend my garden so that I could get more sunshine.  There was always that moment of no return when the tree started to fall. I kept all the wood chips.
Woodsmen are artists in their own world. I marvel at those fellas that sculpt animal figure with chain saws out of tree trunks. Plus they need to be as agile as a monkey climbing those trees.
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Post  sanderson on 4/27/2018, 2:14 am

Our quick vacation up the northern coast of California last September.  Leggett, CA, site of the drive through redwood tree.





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Post  jimmy cee on 4/28/2018, 11:12 pm

Sanderson...we have those tree sculptors at local fairs in Pennsylvania. They seem to be a common item here.
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Post  jimmy cee on 5/27/2018, 1:31 pm

I started this project and have no idea where it will wind up. If my mix is as good as prior years I will take it to unbelievable heights. If it isnt, don't know what to say..however I am very optimistic. This will be a first container, has 12 plants in it...tomatoes, peppers, egg plant, cucumbers, and basil. 8 full squares, with four smaller squares I am treating as full squares.
My mix measure 8 inches, above that will be mulch, probably straw. I will be doing grids soon, using reinforced clothesline. Some type of barrier will probably be needed at a future time. My favorite netting will also be used, however maybe not till a couple more beds are put up.
Plans are to build a U shape structure elevated and holding 3 of the troughs off the ground.
The metal gets extremely hot when sun beats down on them, if mix wont keep them cool, I'll just need to do some type of cover.
Compost I used was similar to municipal compost, along with chicken manure, black cow and a bit of blood meal. Everything was pre measured. for each portion of Mel's Mix.. Any future beds will be using my own compost.
Understand this is all going to change except for the container used. At the very least another year. I don't move fast any more if I ever did. and I love to play....garden...

1/4 inch holes in each square + a few extra here and there.

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Planted 12 plants ...now the wait. weed barrier on top for temporary mulching...






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Post  sanderson on 5/27/2018, 1:41 pm

This is fun. Like watching a newbie develop their first garden. I was wondering how you were going to do the grids. Will you be putting weighted cord at the red marks, or make a set-in / take-out grid? I am so happy you are back in the game. Just looking at the large cinder blocks and rocks makes my back hurt. Beautiful, solid construction going on there. Very Happy

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Post  jimmy cee on 5/27/2018, 2:28 pm

@sanderson wrote: This is fun.  Like watching a newbie develop their first garden.  I was wondering how you were going to do the grids.  Will you be putting weighted cord at the red marks, or make a set-in / take-out grid?  I am so happy you are back in the game.  Just looking at the large cinder blocks and rocks makes my back hurt.  Beautiful, solid construction going on there. Very Happy
I may make a double layer of grids. Like to keep the SFG grids viewable. This area has many interested folks so I want it to be as attractive as I can. Since there will be a 4 inch space between mix surface and top of bed I will be placing a mulch, not quite certain what... Sun seems much more fierce here than back in Indiana. I'll be drilling holes, running line through holes and weighted down in back. I will be making a flag for my own personal use, as not to interfere with any copy right laws... if I can find suitable material...


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Post  sanderson on 5/27/2018, 2:33 pm

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Post  trolleydriver on 5/27/2018, 5:01 pm

Lookin great Jimmy.  Very Happy

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Post  Kelejan on 5/27/2018, 10:50 pm

I love following other gardeners projects. Looking forward to seeing the plants full-grown. I think they will do great.
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Post  jimmy cee on 5/27/2018, 11:02 pm

@Kelejan wrote:I love following other gardeners projects. Looking forward to seeing the plants full-grown. I think they will do great.
The mix looks great, I'm very optimistic, if it works a mountain of black gold is awaiting.
I am about to order another tumbler, one I have going now is warming up nicely, with a shot of horse manure next week it should really start.
2 tumblers working should give me all my compost needs, if they would just speed up a bit.
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Post  sanderson on 5/28/2018, 3:17 am

Oh, to have a second Lifetime tumbler but I just don't have the room. Good for you that you have the room.

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Post  jimmy cee on 5/29/2018, 10:52 pm

@sanderson wrote:Oh, to have a second Lifetime tumbler but I just don't have the room.  Good for you that you have the room.
Ordered it today. I really think this will serve my compost needs here.Having 2 will ease my mind a bit for then I know I can fill one and use the other. Back and forth. I just picked up a dozen ears of corn, scissored the husks, I love corn on cob with butter, I abstained from butter now so I can toss them in after chopping up.
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Post  sanderson on 5/30/2018, 3:23 am

Is your other one a Lifetime?

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Post  Turan on 5/30/2018, 12:47 pm

I am very intrigued to see how this works out.  I can see this being the future in my garden some year.

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