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Post  brianj555 on 8/27/2017, 3:32 pm

My wife took our daughters to the country to visit some family memebers with farm animals.  That's why I've been posting on here all day Very Happy  ( not used to sitting around my house by myself Shocked) Anyway, she just sent me text saying her uncle sent her home with a feed bag full of pig and cow manure.  ( I can't believe she actually put that in her trunk:lol:). Should I only use this combination for composting  for the flower garden?  I read many many conflicting things online about using it in the veggie garden even if it has been composted over 120 days.  Her uncle "said" the pigs are NOT fed meat. I would love to add this stuff to my veggie compost heap, but  I doubt that I will risk it, and will probably make a new compost pile strictly for my wife's flowers, but I would like to know what you guy's think.
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Post  sanderson on 8/27/2017, 4:05 pm

Vegetarian pooh is okay. Cow, horse, llama, goat, bunnies, elephant, etc., so vegetarian pigs' pooh should also be okay.

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Post  Turan on 8/27/2017, 4:07 pm

I don't know why you wouldn't put it in the compost heap. So what if the pigs were fed meat? It would make a hotter manure but other wise no problem if you are not vegan or some such. Chickens are also omnivores and no one blinks about their manure, why about pigs? If he feeds his cows hay that has been sprayed with a long lasting herbicide, that is a problem because the herbicide passes through intact in the manure, but that is more of problem with horses than cattle.

As an aside, butchering stuff, feathers, guts, fish, are all great in the compost if you can keep rats and such out.  I butchered 50 chickens one year and layered the resulting mess with old hay and stuff, it was all devoured by the microbes within 2 weeks.  Of course the compost was not finished for several more months, the microbes ate dessert first and then settled down to the hay. Very Happy

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Post  brianj555 on 8/27/2017, 5:01 pm

@Turan wrote:I don't know why you wouldn't put it in the compost heap. So what if the pigs were fed meat? It would make a hotter manure but other wise no problem if you are not vegan or some such. Chickens are also omnivores and no one blinks about their manure, why about pigs? If he feeds his cows hay that has been sprayed with a long lasting herbicide, that is a problem because the herbicide passes through intact in the manure, but that is more of problem with horses than cattle.

As an aside, butchering stuff, feathers, guts, fish, are all great in the compost if you can keep rats and such out.  I butchered 50 chickens one year and layered the resulting mess with old hay and stuff, it was all devoured by the microbes within 2 weeks.  Of course the compost was not finished for several more months, the microbes ate dessert first and then settled down to the hay. Very Happy
I understand what your saying. There are just more than a few articles online that say that pig poop is a "no no" in compost for vegetable gardening. Several of them say it's fine after 120 days and that if the compost pile gets hot enough.  Sal Manila and worms among other things that were mentioned that could survive and ultimately make its way to your table.  It seems a stretch to me, but I just didn't want to ruin my whole compost pile.  I put a month's worth of kitchen scraps in that thing.   Very Happy
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Post  Yardslave on 8/27/2017, 7:00 pm

If it's "hot" composted to kill pathogens, I don't see why it can't be used. Milorganite is has been used for years and is organic, and it is derived from Milwaukee Metro Sewage District "wastewater".
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Post  sanderson on 8/27/2017, 8:54 pm

Hot composting kills most pathogens. If the pile does not heat up throughout to 160*F for a short time or 140*F for a few days, I use it in the flower beds. Just personal preference.

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Post  brianj555 on 8/28/2017, 6:02 pm

I'm guessing I'm going to need to get a compost thermometer.thinking
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Post  trolleydriver on 8/28/2017, 6:17 pm

@brianj555 wrote:I'm guessing I'm going to need to get a compost thermometer.thinking
Yup.  Get one ... you will not be sorry.  Very Happy

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Post  sanderson on 8/29/2017, 1:00 am

@trolleydriver wrote:
@brianj555 wrote:I'm guessing I'm going to need to get a compost thermometer.thinking
Yup.  Get one ... you will not be sorry.  Very Happy
Yep, greatest tool for composting.

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