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Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
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Robbomb116
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Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
I have loads of green tomatoes, a few peppers, and a couple of cukes, but so far, I have not been able to find any zucchini. Granted, my SFG is an overgrown jungle of lush, green leaves, stems and tendrils, but I really haven't been able to see any zukes in there. I've always heard stories about zucchini being so prolific that people sneak onto their neighbor's porches in the dead of night to deposit their excess ones. So I thought they'd be a cinch to grow. This is my first time with them, and I've just been reading about the male and female flowers, so tomorrow, I will have to see if I'm able to locate both of them. I was thinking that if the tomatoes, cukes and peppers have been pollinated, that the zucchini would be too, but do I need to get out there and "bee" a pollinator myself? Is there a reason why the pollinators would have hit the other plants but not the zucchinis?
hammock gal- Posts : 381
Join date : 2016-04-05
Location : Zone 6a- Southwest CT
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
One thing with zucchini and all squash really is the first about 10 or so flowers are all male, so even though you're seeing flowers, you moghtbnot have female flowers yet.
Side note, the male flowers are edible too! So you can pick the first 5 or 6 usually to eat and still know you'll have male flowers to pollinate the female flowers when they arrive.
Side note, the male flowers are edible too! So you can pick the first 5 or 6 usually to eat and still know you'll have male flowers to pollinate the female flowers when they arrive.
Robbomb116- Posts : 364
Join date : 2016-07-07
Age : 34
Location : Bismarck ND, Zone 4a
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
Robbomb116 wrote:One thing with zucchini and all squash really is the first about 10 or so flowers are all male, so even though you're seeing flowers, you moghtbnot have female flowers yet.
Side note, the male flowers are edible too! So you can pick the first 5 or 6 usually to eat and still know you'll have male flowers to pollinate the female flowers when they arrive.
Ahh, this is good to know! I haven't eaten squash blossoms since my wonderful Italian landlady used to make them for me, many years ago. I found this recipe, which sounds very much like she used to make them. Maybe I'll give it a go.
https://www.williams-sonoma.com/recipe/fried-ricotta-stuffed-zucchini.html
hammock gal- Posts : 381
Join date : 2016-04-05
Location : Zone 6a- Southwest CT
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
Robbomb116 wrote:One thing with zucchini and all squash really is the first about 10 or so flowers are all male, so even though you're seeing flowers, you moghtbnot have female flowers yet.
I'm so glad you posted this. I always think my seeds and plants are duds.
Altho I still have to wonder why the fruits sometimes shrivel up and fall off BEFORE the flower has even opened. That makes me a little crazy.
CapeCoddess- Posts : 6824
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 68
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
I cant grow Zukes
I hand pollinated and got a few but me and Zucchini do not get along.
I hand pollinated and got a few but me and Zucchini do not get along.
SQWIB- Posts : 366
Join date : 2016-03-07
Location : Philly 7A
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
Curbits in general & especially courgettes ie . marrows & zuch can be problematic in pollination especially if there are not many honey bees or bumble bees flying .
You'll also need in excess of 50 oF or 10 oC air temp & a fairly dry day .........65 to 70 oF is best . Much past 70 oF & the plant starts to close down for the day as it's getting too hot .
WRT . which flower arrives first ...
I've always thought that the female flower arrived first , however it matters not really .
What does matter is how to identify the differences twixt male & female flowers .
A female flower is recognised by being a flower in bud on a stem about 3 inches long , 24 hrs later if the weather is over 65 oF & not too wet this stem starts to swell like a mini , mini zuch & the flower bud starts to show a willingness to start opening up .
So now you have a 1/3 ( 8 mm ) dia by 3 or so inches long baby zuc etc. with an about to open bloom in front of you .
The flower will usually open the next day , by which time you should also see a young male flowers either on this plant or the all important " stand by in reserve plant " adjacent to it .
The male flower looks like a female but the stem from which the flower head grows does not have any indication of the swelling . In other words this stem is about 1/8 inch thick for the three inches of its length .
Now for the easy bit between 0800 & 11.00 hrs as the day warms up when pollen & nectar production are on the rise cut off a single male flower if it has opened up and rub the pollen head into three or four female flowers .
Or
You may want to try using a fine soft squirrel hair artists water painting brush or a rabbits tail pollinating mop to take pollen off the male flower & put it in the female flowers instead .
As far as I can discover , you need a male curbit of the same species to pollinate the female . So you can't use say a bean pollen flower to fertilize the curbit .
If the female flower does not get fertilized it will start to go rotten when the flower falls off . Often referred to as Blossom End Rot or BER
Some times if you have several plants with a lot of unfertilized female growth they can be cut off & added in a salad or popped in a stir fry .
You'll also need in excess of 50 oF or 10 oC air temp & a fairly dry day .........65 to 70 oF is best . Much past 70 oF & the plant starts to close down for the day as it's getting too hot .
WRT . which flower arrives first ...
I've always thought that the female flower arrived first , however it matters not really .
What does matter is how to identify the differences twixt male & female flowers .
A female flower is recognised by being a flower in bud on a stem about 3 inches long , 24 hrs later if the weather is over 65 oF & not too wet this stem starts to swell like a mini , mini zuch & the flower bud starts to show a willingness to start opening up .
So now you have a 1/3 ( 8 mm ) dia by 3 or so inches long baby zuc etc. with an about to open bloom in front of you .
The flower will usually open the next day , by which time you should also see a young male flowers either on this plant or the all important " stand by in reserve plant " adjacent to it .
The male flower looks like a female but the stem from which the flower head grows does not have any indication of the swelling . In other words this stem is about 1/8 inch thick for the three inches of its length .
Now for the easy bit between 0800 & 11.00 hrs as the day warms up when pollen & nectar production are on the rise cut off a single male flower if it has opened up and rub the pollen head into three or four female flowers .
Or
You may want to try using a fine soft squirrel hair artists water painting brush or a rabbits tail pollinating mop to take pollen off the male flower & put it in the female flowers instead .
As far as I can discover , you need a male curbit of the same species to pollinate the female . So you can't use say a bean pollen flower to fertilize the curbit .
If the female flower does not get fertilized it will start to go rotten when the flower falls off . Often referred to as Blossom End Rot or BER
Some times if you have several plants with a lot of unfertilized female growth they can be cut off & added in a salad or popped in a stir fry .
plantoid- Posts : 4096
Join date : 2011-11-09
Age : 73
Location : At the west end of M4 in the UK
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
https://www.google.com/search?q=male+vs+female+squash+flowers&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj24NPQnKPVAhWJ5yYKHeRnAtAQ_AUICSgB&biw=1024&bih=704#imgrc=ptX756YArhRUJM:
Scorpio Rising- Posts : 8703
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Age : 62
Location : Ada, Ohio
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
https://www.google.com/search?q=male+vs+female+squash+flowers&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj24NPQnKPVAhWJ5yYKHeRnAtAQ_AUICSgB&biw=1024&bih=704#imgrc=PutmSuDYOFaBLM:
Scorpio Rising- Posts : 8703
Join date : 2015-06-12
Age : 62
Location : Ada, Ohio
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
That's even better having the pictures SR.
I also forgot to say the male flowers have the long thin straggly leaves at the base of the flower whereas there are none on the female flower to speak of .
This a.m. two male flowers have opened , so with luck & judicious use of an artists soft paint brush they will ensure total pollination of the half dozen or so female flowers on the yellow zuch's in my ANSFG bed
I also forgot to say the male flowers have the long thin straggly leaves at the base of the flower whereas there are none on the female flower to speak of .
This a.m. two male flowers have opened , so with luck & judicious use of an artists soft paint brush they will ensure total pollination of the half dozen or so female flowers on the yellow zuch's in my ANSFG bed
plantoid- Posts : 4096
Join date : 2011-11-09
Age : 73
Location : At the west end of M4 in the UK
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
Plantoid, why do the females sometimes shrivel up and die before their flower opens?
CapeCoddess- Posts : 6824
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 68
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
Small family emergency had me away from the garden for a few days. Thanks for all the info, much appreciated. I finally had a chance to get out and check for male/female blossoms, and honestly, all the ones I see appear to be male. I'm keeping my fingers crossed some females make an appearance! But I have to tell you, it's a jungle in there!!! My SFG bed is so thick, there could be females that I just can't find. The tomatoes are about seven feet tall and sprawling everywhere, the zukes and cukes have such big leaves that I've totally lost the peppers! I'm going to have to mount an excursion into the "heart of darkness" soon, to see what goodies may be trapped in there.
hammock gal- Posts : 381
Join date : 2016-04-05
Location : Zone 6a- Southwest CT
Re: Do I need to pollinate my zucchinis?
HG, I'd LOVE to see your garden. Would you please post photos in the New England thread? Pretty please?
CapeCoddess- Posts : 6824
Join date : 2012-05-20
Age : 68
Location : elbow of the Cape, MA, Zone 6b/7a
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