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Post  kauairosina Sun 19 Jan 2014 - 22:43

I have a four by eight raised bed (to my waist) that is now covered in strawberry plants.  Other than lifting each strawberry onto leaves so it does not touch the ground and get nibbled at by whatever is down there, does anyone have another idea?   I'm wondering about straw but think it might give the eaters a hideaway.
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Post  camprn Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 3:24

Yes, a fluffed straw mulch would work well to lift the berries away from the ground.

http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/sustainag/extn_pub/fruitpubs/Strawberries%20for%20the%20Home%20Garden%20-Oahu%20County%20Leaflet%20No.%2019.pdf

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Post  yolos Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 17:18

camprn wrote:Yes, a fluffed straw mulch would work well to lift the berries away from the ground.

http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/sustainag/extn_pub/fruitpubs/Strawberries%20for%20the%20Home%20Garden%20-Oahu%20County%20Leaflet%20No.%2019.pdf

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I was told by an old time gardener that you should put STRAW under the berries, that is why they are called STRAWberries.  Don't know if that is true or not.
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Post  kauairosina Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 17:32

Thanks Yolo, that's one I never heard.  Gonna get that straw under them tomorrow morning.
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Post  walshevak Mon 20 Jan 2014 - 20:51

Commercial growers use a black plastic mulch to keep the berries off the soil.

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Post  plantoid Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 14:18

kauairosina wrote:Thanks Yolo, that's one I never heard.  Gonna get that straw under them tomorrow morning.


The straw not only makes it uncomfortable for slugs and snail when it's dry it also helps reflect the light & heat back  under the plants to ripen shaded fruits .


 If the slugs aren't slugs but turn out to be small mice eating your strawbs use break neck mouse traps set inside tubes made from clear  Soda pop bottles with the ends cut off  laid & pegged onto  the ground so you don't get any birds or pets. You will soon see if the trap has been sprung . Always reset the trap if you make a catch for they're will likely be zillions more in the extended mouse family .
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Post  kauairosina Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 14:37

My straw was getting funky and difficult to put under strawberries so I used the pine shavings that we use for the chickens.  The berries sure look pretty on their nests.  We'll see how this works.
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Post  plantoid Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 14:45

Sounds a reasonable substitute , can you post any pictures of them on the site please?


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Would love to but I do not know yet how to post to this site.
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Post  plantoid Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 14:52

Putting pictures on site ,
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Post  sanderson Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 18:34

Plain wood chips.  ??
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Post  malefacter Wed 22 Jan 2014 - 19:23

carefull pine will slowly acidify your soil
 you may want to scratch around for cut worms they hang out just under the soil and will eat berries
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Post  donnainzone5 Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 9:53

I wouldn't worry about pine straw acidifying the soil.

First, it takes a very long time to decompose. Secondly, I understand that fully decomposed pine needles have little remaining acidity. And third, strawberries like slightly acidic soil.
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Post  camprn Thu 23 Jan 2014 - 16:29

donnainzone10 wrote:I wouldn't worry about pine straw acidifying the soil.

First, it takes a very long time to decompose.  Secondly, I understand that fully decomposed pine needles have little remaining acidity.  And third, strawberries like slightly acidic soil.  
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I used pine straw on my strawberry beds. All is well.

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Post  grownsunshine Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 12:22

I had a few strawberries I was letting get nice and ripe. Went back a couple of days later and they were eaten. No evidence left, no small morsel hanging off the plan. I know I have squirrels, mice, lizards and probably other possible culprits. I have to make a cover for that box. It's nice to do a search and see what it could be that's eating them and what I need to so. Thanks for the info everyone.

Question - I was going to put up a chicken wire fence, but mice can easily get through the holes. Do you think the culprit is mice and should I use the type of wire with smaller holes like the type used for sifting worm compost?
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Post  audrey.jeanne.roberts Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 12:30

I use a mulch of mixed wood chips 2-3 inches thick.  These aren't bark chips, but the kind of wood that's been chipped from small branches w leaves and needles on them.

I had great success with my strawberries not being eaten last year except occasionally by pill bugs so I use Sluggo Plus each month and am getting them under control.
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Post  southern gardener Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 12:34

grownsunshine wrote:I had a few strawberries I was letting get nice and ripe. Went back a couple of days later and they were eaten. No evidence left, no small morsel hanging off the plan. I know I have squirrels, mice, lizards and probably other possible culprits. I have to make a cover for that box. It's nice to do a search and see what it could be that's eating them and what I need to so. Thanks for the info everyone.

Question - I was going to put up a chicken wire fence, but mice can easily get through the holes. Do you think the culprit is mice and should I use the type of wire with smaller holes like the type used for sifting worm compost?
A couple of months ago I posted a thread about making some covers out of hardware cloth. If you do a search I'm sure you can find it. I gave step-by-step instructions along with some pretty decent pictures. Let me know if you can't find it, I would be glad to help you up. I am on my phone so have limited access right now
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Post  sanderson Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 12:39

SG, It would be great if you could locate and post the name of the thread with your photos. Or bump it so Newbies can see them. The thing is, topics don't always stay on the original subject and only the photo poster can possibly remember in which topic the photos might have been posted. Thanks  Very Happy 
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Post  southern gardener Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 13:53

I found it!! boy was it buried!!  It's in "Moved our Beds" page #3.  Here is the link.

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If someone wants to make a thread of it, it's ok with me. or I can if it's OK.  I've had a lot of people ask me about these. They're so easy to make, long lasting, you can water through them, see what's going on, the bees can get through also.

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Post  sanderson Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 13:57

A separate topic would be nice, something like "durable critter cages for SFG boxes." I made one for Gwennifer's table tops because I think they are so attractive but smallish. Great for patios.
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Post  GWN Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 14:32

I used the wood chips like Audrey around my strawberries and it not only kept the critters away, it kept them very clean. So that when it rained (or watering)  there was not dirt all over the strawbs  
I did use straw for a few years, but I really preferred the chips. MORE DURABLE
OH and one thing about the straw.... it came from a farm up in the hills near here and oddly enough, we got Morel mushrooms in there the following year that I think were a transfer with the straw... BONUS
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Post  kauairosina Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 15:05

I have the same thing happening to my strawberries.  The evidence points to little slug like varmints that hover under the leaves and probably in the ground.  I am going to put more pine shavings down but if the strawberry is isolated from the ground they are just fine.
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Post  GWN Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 15:29

You know the odd thing that gets mine in the summer, that is WASPS.... so weird.
But I also have those tiny slugs that seem to do more damage than the larger ones.
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Post  TxGramma Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 16:26

Birds love them too. The ends of my strawberries were being eaten as they ripened and then I caught the culprit one morning. As I was enjoying just relaxing and looking at the garden I saw the prettiest red bird walking around in my strawberry box just waltz over and help itself to nibbles of my sweet, juicy strawberries. As long as they don't eat too many I share but if they do like they are my figs and eat them all then it's time to cover them up.
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Post  Marc Iverson Mon 7 Apr 2014 - 17:01

I wouldn't mind sharing crops so much if the critters could just eat one or two, not take little bites from a different dozen each day.
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