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Post  grownsunshine on 7/22/2013, 7:07 pm

Is anyone in So Cal getting manure from a Dairy in Chino? I'm looking for a source.
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Post  camprn on 7/22/2013, 7:14 pm

Looks like you have quite a few to choose from.
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Post  grownsunshine on 7/22/2013, 7:30 pm

Thanks! Keep your fingers crossed for me...that I can find a good source.
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Post  camprn on 7/22/2013, 7:37 pm

@grownsunshine wrote:Thanks! Keep your fingers crossed for me...that I can find a good source.
Also hunt around for rabbit, llama or goat farms.

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Post  No_Such_Reality on 7/23/2013, 5:23 pm

@grownsunshine wrote:Thanks! Keep your fingers crossed for me...that I can find a good source.

Grown, if you find some, let me know please. I could always pick up some supplemental manure.
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Post  grownsunshine on 7/23/2013, 5:41 pm

@No_Such_Reality wrote:
@grownsunshine wrote:Thanks! Keep your fingers crossed for me...that I can find a good source.

Grown, if you find some, let me know please.  I could always pick up some supplemental manure.

Absolutely. I plan on driving to Hemet this weekend to get some compost. I've been talking to my co-workers and they said they see signs in Chino from dairy farmers for free manure. I'll let you know what I find.
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Post  grownsunshine on 7/31/2013, 5:33 pm

A co-worker told me about a place to get free cow manure. PM me if you want some and I'll give you the directions.

How long should the cow manure be composted before using it?
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Post  murarrie25 on 7/31/2013, 6:51 pm

If you can get free manure  have you looked at applying some to your grass or other parts of garden and this will improve the plant material put into the compost heap .
 Why would farmers be giving away manure is there a reason.
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Post  llama momma on 7/31/2013, 6:58 pm

 Yes, because there is so much of it.


How Much Manure Does a Dairy Cow Produce Daily?

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A dairy cow produces 148 lbs. a day of manure. That is equal to 1,036 lbs. per week, 4,440 lbs. per month, and 52,020 lbs. per year. However, manure production also depends on the type of cow as Jerseys will produce only 60% of what Holsteins do.
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Post  murarrie25 on 7/31/2013, 7:07 pm

They want $5  a bag for cow manure here seems strange that there is not a market  for cow manure.
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Post  camprn on 7/31/2013, 7:11 pm

@murarrie25 wrote:They want $5  a bag for cow manure here seems strange that there is not a market  for cow manure.
There most certainly is a market for manure, but for some folks, bagging and weighing and marketing is more work than it's worth than taking out the loader and dumping a lode in the back of a truck. Who knows what is in the mind of that farmer....thinking 

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Post  RoOsTeR on 7/31/2013, 10:41 pm

@camprn wrote:
@murarrie25 wrote:They want $5  a bag for cow manure here seems strange that there is not a market  for cow manure.
There most certainly is a market for manure, but for some folks, bagging and weighing and marketing is more work than it's worth than taking out the loader and dumping a lode in the back of a truck. Who knows what is in the mind of that farmer....thinking 

Most people don't consider poop management, until they have to manage poop Wink 


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Post  murarrie25 on 8/1/2013, 2:12 am

Giving away can create problems .
Good to see that they are not trying to incinerate as a biomass fuel.
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Post  grownsunshine on 8/2/2013, 12:16 pm

The Chino dairies got in big trouble because the runoff went into the water system. They've been fighting with the environmentalists, http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jul/31/local/me-manure31. They got fined thousands of $ and most have moved out of state, so maybe giving it away gets rid of it and develops goodwill with the neighbors. For us there is a market for the poo, but the general public goes to HD to buy what they need. I'm going to get a couple of 5 gal buckets to start for my compost. My wife is suggesting otherwise because of her concern about the smell and flies, but I'm getting it anyway to give it a try...sshhhh!!!! It's our secret.
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Post  murarrie25 on 8/2/2013, 3:52 pm

Have you looked at getting used  plastic  5 gal chemical drums for storage and turning it into a liquid  fertilizer tea .  Lots of old drums are safe to use like liquid chlorine  detergent disinfectant all they need is proper clean.
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Post  grownsunshine on 8/2/2013, 5:09 pm

I haven't thought about making it into tea. I was going to compost and age it to kill bad stuff that might be in the manure, antibiotics, etc. Do you know if the process of making tea is the same as worm tea (put in a bag and water with an aerator)? I'm interested in killing any bad stuff that might be in it.
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Post  RoOsTeR on 8/2/2013, 6:41 pm

I think you will get more of the results you're looking for if you add the manure to your compost pile and allow to compost. Then add to your Mel's Mix. You can also use this "finished" compost to make a tea.

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Post  murarrie25 on 8/2/2013, 7:31 pm

Dilution is the solution to pollution that's what they will tell you the polluters.
  Dilute the manure with water and use that to water the compost pile .
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Post  RoOsTeR on 8/2/2013, 7:38 pm

Why the extra step and mess?  Add the manure to the compost pile and add water as you normally would. Nice and simple! Just like the SFG method:D

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Post  murarrie25 on 8/2/2013, 9:01 pm

Referring to earlier post bad stuff like antibiotics  that diluting  can make a bad thing a little less toxic .
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Post  RoOsTeR on 8/2/2013, 9:50 pm

@murarrie25 wrote:Referring to earlier post bad stuff like antibiotics  that diluting  can make a bad thing a little less toxic .

@murarrie25 wrote:Dilution is the solution to pollution that's what they will tell you the polluters.
  Dilute the manure with water and use that to water the compost pile .

Hmm, interesting. I've seen many studies that suggest composting manures help kill pathogens and break down antibiotics/medications, but I've actually never seen diluting accomplishes the same. thinking 



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Post  camprn on 8/2/2013, 9:55 pm

@RoOsTeR wrote:I think you will get more of the results you're looking for if you add the manure to your compost pile and allow to  compost. Then add  to your Mel's Mix. You can also use this "finished" compost to make a tea.

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Post  camprn on 8/2/2013, 9:58 pm

murarrie25, I simply don't understand why you seem to be encouraging the OP from his original intent, which is perfectly sound, of adding it to the compost pile. It will indeed benefit the garden in this manner.

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Post  murarrie25 on 8/3/2013, 7:50 pm

Did no say not to add  to a compost .Problem with manure is that it can smell and have undesirable elements  with manure fresh is not always best and some gardeners advise aged cow manure    .If you live in an urban area and have close neighbors  and they can see and smell manure  then they may complain .If the manure can be dissolved in water and applied to the  other ingredients  it will not be visible and well combined and speed up composting.
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Post  grownsunshine on 8/28/2013, 6:48 pm

Sorry for the late reply. The smell is a concern for my wife when I brought up the idea. Plus we got new neighbors. The volume I'm planning on getting is pretty small (three 5 gallon buckets), so hopefully it won't smell too much...hopefully. If it reeks, tea may be the way to go. I have a 55 gallon drum that I could use...build a gravity watering system. I should know soon. I'm going to get free horse manure, so I'll add that to the cow manure and put them in my compost. I can't wait!!!

A little over a month ago I got really excellent compost form someone who made it at their farm (llama manure, chicken manure, horse manure and wood chips). They aged it for 3 years. The owner said big time steam was coming out of the top. They were down to their last few tractor scoops, so I got what the wife didn't use...prime stuff. Sanderson or someone sent me the Craigslisting for it. THANK YOU!!!!!!

I added some as topping an mixed some into my older boxes.

I was so excited to get it, I decided to try to see if I could sneak some watermelons, pumpkins, and honeydews before the end of the season. They guy at Armstrong said it was a bit late, but I wanted to try anyway.

The main point of all this is....something we all already know, which is...good compost makes a big difference in our MM.

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