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PNW: Winter updates
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PNW Winter Updates
How about kale.....down here it really is a survivor.......kids love to make chips in the oven for snacks.....it is very nutrious....I understand.....would love to hear that Tricasgarden was a success in the wintertime....and even help her grandkids with 2'x2' or 3'x3' boxes on red bricks for legs......for more height....
tabletopper- Posts : 235
Join date : 2011-02-19
Age : 99
Location : Chula Vista,Ca
Re: PNW: Winter updates
tabletopper wrote:How about kale.....down here it really is a survivor.......kids love to make chips in the oven for snacks.....it is very nutrious....I understand.....would love to hear that Tricasgarden was a success in the wintertime....and even help her grandkids with 2'x2' or 3'x3' boxes on red bricks for legs......for more height....
I'm going to try chard sometime in the winter. Kale and chard I hear are the heartiest. Plus, Chard has a lot of nutrition.
cyclonegardener- Posts : 104
Join date : 2011-12-07
Location : SE Iowa
Re: PNW: Winter updates
familygardening update from the PNW
happy gardening
rose
happy gardening
rose
FamilyGardening- Posts : 2424
Join date : 2011-05-10
Location : Western WA
Re: PNW: Winter updates
cyclonegardener wrote:tabletopper wrote:How about kale.....down here it really is a survivor.......kids love to make chips in the oven for snacks.....it is very nutrious....I understand.....would love to hear that Tricasgarden was a success in the wintertime....and even help her grandkids with 2'x2' or 3'x3' boxes on red bricks for legs......for more height....
I'm going to try chard sometime in the winter. Kale and chard I hear are the heartiest. Plus, Chard has a lot of nutrition.
That sounds like a good idea cyclonegardener. I know this is probably strange, but I don't know anything about kale and chard. I will have to do some research and think about planting them. I did have a few grandkids plant some things in the Summer. They were quite good at it. I hadn't thought about doing a 2'x2' box of their own. Only one grandchild that is old enough still lives close by so maybe I could make him one of his own.
It is snowy here also Rose.
Triciasgarden- Posts : 1634
Join date : 2010-06-04
Age : 69
Location : Northern Utah
Re: PNW: Winter updates
we are amazed at how well, collard greens, swiss chard and kale have held up with winter cold temps
hugs
rose....who has to learn how to enjoy eating these fine hearty veggies
hugs
rose....who has to learn how to enjoy eating these fine hearty veggies
FamilyGardening- Posts : 2424
Join date : 2011-05-10
Location : Western WA
Re: PNW: Winter updates
No snow here, my kids are a bit disappointed. Hardly any snow up in the mountains Sunday before last when we went up to get our Christmas tree, but I bet there's plenty now. Just took the garbage out to the curb and it sure feels cold enough to snow.
Rose, how is it that you've learned to enjoy Kale? My hubby bought a giant bag of it from Costco after watching a VitaMix demo and then after throwing a handful into one smoothie never used the rest. I did my best to use it up by adding it to my daily salads, but wasn't able to get through the whole bag before it spoiled. I didn't like it one bit. Tried buying a smaller batch from Fred Meyers so I could continue adding it and see if I could get accustomed to the taste, but no luck. I suppose different varieties taste differently?
Rose, how is it that you've learned to enjoy Kale? My hubby bought a giant bag of it from Costco after watching a VitaMix demo and then after throwing a handful into one smoothie never used the rest. I did my best to use it up by adding it to my daily salads, but wasn't able to get through the whole bag before it spoiled. I didn't like it one bit. Tried buying a smaller batch from Fred Meyers so I could continue adding it and see if I could get accustomed to the taste, but no luck. I suppose different varieties taste differently?
Re: PNW: Winter updates
gwen......i have NOT been able to enjoy any of the kale, swiss chard or collard greens
......hubby loves the collard greens, and our son said he has been eating the kale in his school garden but for me....it all taste blahhhhh .......we even made kale chips with salt....and it was.....ok.....
we did order some differnt kale seeds to plant this spring and see if we like the taste better ....i have also read the lighter color green and if you pick the leaves smaller they taste better ......but that didnt seem to work for us
so we bought the bigger darker greener kale to give it a try :drunken: ......i find the swiss chard and kale are really pretty and i want to use them in the front yard garden area so the garden area is pretty to the eye....... .....
happy gardening
rose who really wants to learn how to appreciate the taste of these veggies
......hubby loves the collard greens, and our son said he has been eating the kale in his school garden but for me....it all taste blahhhhh .......we even made kale chips with salt....and it was.....ok.....
we did order some differnt kale seeds to plant this spring and see if we like the taste better ....i have also read the lighter color green and if you pick the leaves smaller they taste better ......but that didnt seem to work for us
so we bought the bigger darker greener kale to give it a try :drunken: ......i find the swiss chard and kale are really pretty and i want to use them in the front yard garden area so the garden area is pretty to the eye....... .....
happy gardening
rose who really wants to learn how to appreciate the taste of these veggies
FamilyGardening- Posts : 2424
Join date : 2011-05-10
Location : Western WA
Re: PNW: Winter updates
Ah, kale! How we love to hate it. Personal experience, though, indicates kale purchased at the store is usually too mature, and too long on the shelf, all of which makes it stronger in flavor. Picked from the garden, and cooked within the next hour delivers the best, sweetest flavor. You are right, too, the variety of kale is important. For instance, our favorite is the very dark, almost black, Italian "dragon" or "dinosaur" kale. It's a perfect addition to vegetable soup because it doesn't play diva and take over the soup's flavor, it just adds a subtle note. Yes, it does take time to remove the ribs before chopping: easy to do, just grasp the bottom of the rib with fingers of one hand, and use the other hand to strip the leafy portion away with an upward sweep. If you make smoothies, add fresh lime juice to the kale-enhanced smoothie. Nonna, who loves kale cooked in the manner of Southern collards.
Nonna.PapaVino- Posts : 1437
Join date : 2011-02-07
Location : In hills west of St. Helens, OR
Re: PNW: Winter updates
Hey If I could get my ex (born and raised in Ireland) to love collards, anybody can learn to tolerate them. But even I, a died in the wool southern lass, has to have vinegar on them, preferably hot pepper vinegar.
He liked kale too.
You used to be able to get frozen kale in the square boxes just like spinach. My boys would come in on cold days and cook up a package for snack. Haven't seen frozen kale in years.
Kay
He liked kale too.
You used to be able to get frozen kale in the square boxes just like spinach. My boys would come in on cold days and cook up a package for snack. Haven't seen frozen kale in years.
Kay
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Join date : 2010-10-17
Age : 81
Location : wilmington, nc zone 8
Re: PNW: Winter updates
The garden is still alive with lots of lettuce and some celery under the hoops. With temps falling into the low to mid 20's the next several days I am wondering if it is worth purchasing frost cloth/remay for an additional layer of protection.
I am going to Concentrates tomorrow for some chicken and garden items and they have frost cloth in stock for $.35 a foot (it is 6 feet wide).
I was thinking that a few 10 foot sections would help some of the greens survive throughout winter. Since I have only read about it and never used it, how much protection will it provide under the hoops? What I have found online states it will only help down to 30 degrees. In other words, how cold can it get and still provide protection? The rest of the garden will survive these temps and I am only worried about the lettuce and celery at this point. Anyone have any direct experience in this department?
I am going to Concentrates tomorrow for some chicken and garden items and they have frost cloth in stock for $.35 a foot (it is 6 feet wide).
I was thinking that a few 10 foot sections would help some of the greens survive throughout winter. Since I have only read about it and never used it, how much protection will it provide under the hoops? What I have found online states it will only help down to 30 degrees. In other words, how cold can it get and still provide protection? The rest of the garden will survive these temps and I am only worried about the lettuce and celery at this point. Anyone have any direct experience in this department?
happycamper- Posts : 304
Join date : 2010-05-26
Location : East County Portland, OR
Re: PNW: Winter updates
I have two different row covers. The first is Agribon 19 purchased from Johnny's seeds. It allows 85% light transmission and frost protection down to 28* F. Agribon has many weights, each one allows different light transmission and different frost protection. See Johnny's seeds - "row covers" for descriptions of the various weights.
I also have a no name brand purchased from my local nursery. It provides 4* of frost protection. I assume this would be 28* F.
So if you are going shopping tomorrow, ask about degree of frost protection and light transmission through the cover. I personally like the Agribon 19 because it allows a lot of light through the cover and if the temps get below 28* F, its way to cold for this southern girl to be gardening.
For my lettuce, I have 4 mil plastic over hoops with the Agribon 19 over the lettuce under the hoops so I get a little more than 4* of protection but I do not know how low the temps can get before the lettuce will freeze.
I also have a no name brand purchased from my local nursery. It provides 4* of frost protection. I assume this would be 28* F.
So if you are going shopping tomorrow, ask about degree of frost protection and light transmission through the cover. I personally like the Agribon 19 because it allows a lot of light through the cover and if the temps get below 28* F, its way to cold for this southern girl to be gardening.
For my lettuce, I have 4 mil plastic over hoops with the Agribon 19 over the lettuce under the hoops so I get a little more than 4* of protection but I do not know how low the temps can get before the lettuce will freeze.
yolos- Posts : 4152
Join date : 2011-11-20
Age : 74
Location : Brooks, Ga Zone 7B/8A
Re: PNW: Winter updates
I should trudge through 4" of snow in the front yard to check on my SFG again!
When last I looked (on Christmas Day) everything looked great, except for the peas, which appear to have succumbed to powdery mildew.
The bed is covered with two layers of nursery-variety frost cloth, plus 6 mm of plastic sheeting. Temps lately have gone as low as 7.
When last I looked (on Christmas Day) everything looked great, except for the peas, which appear to have succumbed to powdery mildew.
The bed is covered with two layers of nursery-variety frost cloth, plus 6 mm of plastic sheeting. Temps lately have gone as low as 7.
Re: PNW: Winter updates
woke up to it snowing this morning
we gave up on the hoops when our broc's and cauli's heads turned black and took off the plastic.... sorry no help happpycamper....but keep us posted if it helps you keep your winter garden growing
we still have swiss chard, collard greens, leeks growing well in the hoop box.....we will check on them after the snow and see if they continue to do well....last we checked on the spinach and lettuce it was doing fine....not sure how they will hold up since we took the plastic off.... i think i will have hubby put the plastic back up again now that its snowing....
in the green house the transplanted celery is doing well along with some baby turnips and onions.....the lettuce, carrots and spinach was eatin by slugs or some other critter....the snow peas are still there but look a bit spent and didnt make it to the point of producing peas.....
out in the SFG area we still have carrots
in the re-used dog crates turn planting container outside up against the house...we have one cabbage and one cauliflower that is still growing ok....the brossel sprouts look awful....they too were over come with the mob of slugs
we noticed yesterday that some of our garlic is up
happy gardening
rose....
we gave up on the hoops when our broc's and cauli's heads turned black and took off the plastic.... sorry no help happpycamper....but keep us posted if it helps you keep your winter garden growing
we still have swiss chard, collard greens, leeks growing well in the hoop box.....we will check on them after the snow and see if they continue to do well....last we checked on the spinach and lettuce it was doing fine....not sure how they will hold up since we took the plastic off.... i think i will have hubby put the plastic back up again now that its snowing....
in the green house the transplanted celery is doing well along with some baby turnips and onions.....the lettuce, carrots and spinach was eatin by slugs or some other critter....the snow peas are still there but look a bit spent and didnt make it to the point of producing peas.....
out in the SFG area we still have carrots
in the re-used dog crates turn planting container outside up against the house...we have one cabbage and one cauliflower that is still growing ok....the brossel sprouts look awful....they too were over come with the mob of slugs
we noticed yesterday that some of our garlic is up
happy gardening
rose....
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FamilyGardening- Posts : 2424
Join date : 2011-05-10
Location : Western WA
Re: PNW: Winter updates
This is so amazing how much you guys have growing still with Winter here! I will have to plan better for next year. I am learning so much from all your posts guys and sure appreciate you sharing!
Triciasgarden- Posts : 1634
Join date : 2010-06-04
Age : 69
Location : Northern Utah
Re: PNW: Winter updates
Thank you for all of the information. We will see if it works, if it does, it will be worth the money. If the lettuce survives I will consider it a success! After reading all the comments it should work, items still growing in Bend, OR this time of year is a HUGE accomplishment!
happycamper- Posts : 304
Join date : 2010-05-26
Location : East County Portland, OR
Re: PNW: Winter updates
Happycamper,
I must admit that I sneeked a peek at my SFG this afternoon, only to find the Asian greens in a semi-frozen state. I clipped them for a New Year's Eve stir-fry.
Some of the tiniest peas (near the surface of the Mel's Mix) appeared viable. Carrot tops had flopped over, but I remain hopeful. Beets appeared normal. Broccoli was leaning over. Garlic and onions were apparently normal. And spinach and lettuce seemed viable, still, if not growing.
Since I'd left the bed partially open (due to laziness), I closed it back up again. I'll report any changes as they may occur.
I must admit that I sneeked a peek at my SFG this afternoon, only to find the Asian greens in a semi-frozen state. I clipped them for a New Year's Eve stir-fry.
Some of the tiniest peas (near the surface of the Mel's Mix) appeared viable. Carrot tops had flopped over, but I remain hopeful. Beets appeared normal. Broccoli was leaning over. Garlic and onions were apparently normal. And spinach and lettuce seemed viable, still, if not growing.
Since I'd left the bed partially open (due to laziness), I closed it back up again. I'll report any changes as they may occur.
Re: PNW: Winter updates
we are starting to get signs of spring we wanted to give an update on how our over winter veggies did
our over winter veggies did pretty well....even with some bite holes in them LOL ....next winter we hope to control the slugs better and have a larger winter garden
Swiss Chard
Bok Choi
Cabbage
Celery
was VERY happy to find some more Leeks that over wintered!!
forgot to take a pic of the carrots, they are med to small size and we are going to keep them in the bed until its time to plant something else in their spot....hoping they will grow a little bit bigger
happy gardening
rose
our over winter veggies did pretty well....even with some bite holes in them LOL ....next winter we hope to control the slugs better and have a larger winter garden
Swiss Chard
Bok Choi
Cabbage
Celery
was VERY happy to find some more Leeks that over wintered!!
forgot to take a pic of the carrots, they are med to small size and we are going to keep them in the bed until its time to plant something else in their spot....hoping they will grow a little bit bigger
happy gardening
rose
FamilyGardening- Posts : 2424
Join date : 2011-05-10
Location : Western WA
Re: PNW: Winter updates
over winter red cabbage still growing...got hit a bit by slugs but doesnt look to bad....looks like we may get some red cabbage.....
bok choi is starting to flower, swiss chard still going strong and getting new growth on the collard greens...it maybe getting ready to bolt...so we should hurry up and it some....
happy gardening
rose
bok choi is starting to flower, swiss chard still going strong and getting new growth on the collard greens...it maybe getting ready to bolt...so we should hurry up and it some....
happy gardening
rose
FamilyGardening- Posts : 2424
Join date : 2011-05-10
Location : Western WA
Re: PNW: Winter updates
Just thought I would post a few pictures of some items that overwintered here in the PNW.
Lettuce and Kale
Letttuce and Turnips
Celery and Kale
I will have to pull everything by late April to prepare the space for tomatoes.
I was fortunate to get the pictures before the clouds, rain or hail came back (a typical PNW spring). We used to say "March comes in like a lion and goes out like a lamb", we will see what happens this year. Happy Gardening everyone!
Lettuce and Kale
Letttuce and Turnips
Celery and Kale
I will have to pull everything by late April to prepare the space for tomatoes.
I was fortunate to get the pictures before the clouds, rain or hail came back (a typical PNW spring). We used to say "March comes in like a lion and goes out like a lamb", we will see what happens this year. Happy Gardening everyone!
happycamper- Posts : 304
Join date : 2010-05-26
Location : East County Portland, OR
Re: PNW: Winter updates
i think we may end up with some over winter red cabbage....its growing and looking like it wants to head up
its so pretty and the leaves are huge!
happy gardening
rose
its so pretty and the leaves are huge!
happy gardening
rose
FamilyGardening- Posts : 2424
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