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Post  arla on Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:09 am

From a UK planter for potatoes I found out about cloches, figured they might be interesting, so played with trying to find them and found these, which seem very interesting, yes more expensive than a self-made hoop house, but probably better than my efforts Smile

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Post  shannon1 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:34 am

They sure look nicer than the ones I make out of milk jugs. Mine do have a square bottom though.
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Post  newstart on Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:05 am

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Post  quiltbea on Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:43 pm

I live on a tight budget. I'd rather have large milk bottles as cloches than pay those sums. They, too, store easily stacked together.

I admit to liking the 'row' type better.
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Post  gwennifer on Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:12 pm

@shannon1 wrote:They sure look nicer than the ones I make out of milk jugs. Mine do have a square bottom though.

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These are on sale and the Master Gardeners here recommended them if I wanted to grow bell peppers so maybe I'll go ahead and try a few. It's a flat $5.99 shipping rate - anyone here in Vancover/Portland want to split an order with me?
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Post  quiltbea on Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:26 pm

Remember, those small ones are only 10" high. Be sure they will be enough for your needs.
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Post  curio on Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:00 pm

the large ones are only a foot high. I believe pepper plants get a bit larger than that. I'm going to try the wall-a-waters and a tall a-frame cloche with open ends for my peppers this year.
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Post  gwennifer on Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:24 pm

Yeah, I saw the height. I guess I thought that they only needed to be covered when they were new babies out there, earliest in the season when the nights could still get too cool for them. But I've never grown peppers before; will they be larger than these cloches before the weather warms up enough for them to be on their own?

I'll look into the wall-o-water. I've seen others on here mention them. Thx!
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Post  curio on Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:39 pm

I've found that our summers aren't long enough or hot enough (not enough days over 80 degrees) for peppers to thrive here on the west side of the Cascades.
The one year we had lovely peppers was the year I left them all in wall-a-waters all season. Even though the WAWs are 18" tall the peppers were a bit taller than the tops of them.
If you decide to go with the WOW, I'd purchase at Home Depot, as theirs are the same as the ones in the garden centers, and are usually significantly less. I believe we paid about $14.00 for three. We use them for tomatoes also. Last year we didn't, and our harvest was quite miserable compared to the years we did (even though they're grown in an unheated greenhouse.
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Post  arla on Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:50 pm

Thanks for the info about wall-o-water, although I'm curious, do they not need a lid? My recollection is that hot-air rises, thus I'd sort of expect any hot air in the wall-o-water area to rise?

For my use I think maybe the cloche's work fine because I'm not getting frosts after about mid-jan, it's more just to give that bit better heat to the ground/seeds so that they grow. Not sure what size yet, if my square markings were buried in the soil then maybe the row-cover square style would work quite well, the large cloche seems a bit wide (13" diameter) but the medium is a bit small (only 7 inch's high)

Ahh, decisions, decisions!
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Post  Furbalsmom on Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:47 pm

Arla, the wall o water is accordian like, so the top sort of collapses closed to keep the heat in while the plants are small.
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